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continued to threaten to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. house republican conference chairwoman kathy rogers told "political" i think it is possible we would shut down the government to make sure that president obama understands that we're serious. well, i guess that would do it. we always talk about whether or not we're going to kick the can down the road. i think the mood is that we have come to the end of the road. what road? and republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee said this to msnbc's chris jansing. let me ask you if you're willing to shut the government down? >> we're looking at all the options, there is the option of government shutdown, the option of raising the debt ceiling in short-term increments. i think there is a way to avoid default if it requires shutting down portions of the government. let's look at that. >> and in his press conference, president obama quoted speaker john boehner from 2011. >> that would be a financial disaster, not only for our country but for the worldwide economy. i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >>
with house republicans over the debt ceiling. mark matthews looks at the challenge the president is facing. >> president told reporters raising the debt ceiling is not a question of more spending. >> it's simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >>reporter: then he repeated that. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize to us spend more. >>reporter: in the 40 minute press conference he said it half dozen times. >> this is about paying your bills. >>reporter: if the u.s. defaults on the debt. >> social security checks veteran benefit will be delaye delayed. might not be able to pay our troops. honor our contract with small business owners. >>reporter: house republicans say it is about spending. they want corresponding spending cuts for every dollar that the debt ceiling is raised. today speaker of the house boehner said the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. president said he will negotiate spending cuts but not with the economy hanging in the balance. >> f
to the wood shed over the debt ceiling today the white house press car taking on the president and president obama getting, well, rather testy. >> are you considering a plan b and if not, why not? >> chuck, what i'm saying to you is that there's no simpler solution, no ready, credible solution other than congress either give me the authority to raise the debt ceiling or exercise the responsibility that they have kept for themselves and raise the debt ceiling. >> what chuck and i and many people are curious, the new adamant desire for you not to negotiate and seems to conflict with the modern era of presidents and the debt ceiling and your own history of the debt ceiling. >> i think if you look at the history getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult. i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. >> you say you're not going to negotiate on the debt ceiling this year, why should house republicans take that seriously and think if we get to the one minute to midnight scenario that you're not going to back down. >> jewel anna, this is straight forward, either co
this looming fight over the debt ceiling. our chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, was part of the questioning. he joins us from there tonight. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. as you mentioned, vice president biden formally gave the president the gun violence task force recommendation that he was charged with getting. and while the president said he's formally going to unveil what his proposals are going to be, he did say today that if congress doesn't act at this news conference, he's willing to do it himself. during the hour-long press conference, president obama said he wants stronger background checks and limits on assault weapons and ammunition. but acknowledged the difficult politics. >> those are things i continue to believe make sense. will all of them get through this congress? i don't know. >> reporter: and he said administrative action, such as backtracking guns used by criminals are things he may be able to do right away. >> i'm confident that there are some steps we can take that don't require legislation. >> reporter: but gun control was
. but house republicans have been equally adamant they will not raise the debt ceiling unless the president first agrees to major spending cuts. >> i think the real issue here is, we all know, is spending. >> reporter: the president insists this is not even a subject for negotiation. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> reporter: stakes are higher than they were during the new year's eve showdown over the fiscal cliff. if an agreement isn't reached, the federal government faces default on its debt and a partial shutdown. >> social security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops. >> reporter: some have suggested president obama would have better luck with the republicans if he socialized with them. the president said that probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but he wouldn't mind trying. >> most people who know me, know i'm a pretty friendly guy. and i like a good party. >> jon, the president also talked about pr
changed is that house republicans demanded specific concessions in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, not just casting symbolic votes but saying we want trillions of dollars in cut, billions of dollars in cuts. that's new, using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip but along the same lines i have noticed something maybe. that the ground is shifting here in terms of where the house republicans looking for the leverage in the upcoming fights over medicare, medicaid and entitlements and talking about the debt ceiling as beverage and then the continuing resolution funding the government and coming up for exwe ration in march and going up to the deadline, past that deadline, it is not good, results in a government shutdown, a temporary government shutdown and nowhere near as catastrophic in terms of debt default. do you sense that's where the debate is shifting? republicans more likely to take a stand along the continuing resolution than the debt ceiling? >> they're backing off from this notion we are not going to prove the debt ceiling. i think the reason is as opposed to the fiscal cli
, president obama raising eyebrows say we are not a deadbeat nation, but is he right? and as the debt ceiling comes closer, will the white house use the nuclear option? does he have the legal authority to do so? that's next. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. ♪ gerri: is another credit downgrade coming? fitch warning today they will downgrade the u.s. triple-a-rated give the debt ceiling is not raised. with more of possible economic fallout, moody's chief economist. all right. if they do this, what happens to the economy, the stock market? >> well, i would think that financial markets have had enough warning of a possible downgrade of the u.s. aaa credit rating by an agency other than s&p, and thus perhaps it would not have that damaging impact. the downgrade was not especially g. that being said there will be a negative psych
before addressing the white house veto, then the president gets his original wish and the debt ceiling automatically goes up. in other words, a redo of the fiscal cliff threatening the u.s. economy. give extremism and allow congress to basically do anything. welcome to washington. andrew, is this -- is this the way it goes now? >> i'm depressing. it is depressing are but it's also maybe the viable path forward. in terms of harm done to the u.s. economy sshgs that the best solution? >> i cannot get behind that. by the way, count get behind the platinum coin. we could draw something on a little piece of paper, and they could hand it to me. i can't get behind any of that. ultimately, we have to actually figure this out. the president has to figure it out. congress has to figure it out, and that's going to be the end of it. i have to think we're wasting our time. not just you us talking about it, but the fact that we're having these conversation bz what kind of wack-a-do arrangement we can create so everyone can pretend everything is okay. >> isn't it a result of a congress that seems to h
. >> reporter: the debt ceiling deadline is just one of three budget showdowns the white house and congress face in the coming months. house speaker john boehner said if laws do not tackle the debt and spending at the same time, it will cost americans jobs. in a statement, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending." danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> military suicides have reached record levels. so bad that the secretary of defense calls it an epidemic. the pentagon says there were 349 suicides among active duty personnel last year. that's more than the number of combat deaths in afghanistan. experts say iraq and afghanistan war veterans suffering from depression and post traumatic stress are at the highest risk. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will testify next week about the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in libya. clinton will appear before the house foreign affairs committee. she had been scheduled to testify last month. that was canceled when she fell and suffered a concuss
in the house want spending cuts if the debt ceiling is raised. >>> on wall street, stocks traded mostly sideways as the markets finished mixed. dow industrial gained 18 points. nasdaq dropped 8 weighed down by a decline in apple. the company saw its stocks slump following report apple has cut orsd for iphone 5 components. the report suggests demand for the iphone 5 stagnated relatively quickly. stokss dripped below 500 down $18 and change or 3 and a half percent. apple's all-time high is 700. >>> a bay area pizza chain is giving money back to its workers. ahead in eight minutes how the mistakes it made will be swallowed by customers. >>> the 2013 lease will be priced at just below 29 thousand tlrs. that's a 6 thousand $reduction from the previous model year. based on production of the e lek tris lease sold in the u.s. to tennessee to japan. >>> it's the confession many people have been waiting for. seven-time tour de france winner lance armstrong reportedly admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs. associated press said armstrong confessed in an interview today with oprah winfrey a
warnings on the debt ceiling. timothy geithner telling congressional leaders that the u.s. will exhaust its limit mid-february. bernanke urging congress to extend borrowing authority well before the deadline. the u.s. could lose its aaa rating, so where do we go from here? wonderful to have you with us. you believe the u.s. will not default on its debt. how will washington get to that point? there is a proposal of delaying inflammation of the obama law. >> everything is on the table, including the delight that the republicans are talking about. my guess is, or that our guess is, they will go all the way down to the wire. whether there will be enough to talk about a substantial reduction in the debt, i think that is a little bit more up for grabs. we will get pretty close to that line. in the process, the worry is not that we do fall, but that the markets could get very upset. as they did in the summer of 2011, especially the stock market. lori: the markets have to be somewhat jaded. having said that, how will that impact the first quarter? >> the markets are starting to get a little jaded.
of the house of representatives about their take on the debt ceiling and gun- control and other big-ticket items better up from debate in the 113 congress. on our facebook page, this is what folks are saying. jed in eugene, oregon, independent. i just spoke with him. i'm sorry. david is in kentucky, democratic caller. caller: yes, you do a good job. the last caller had it right. i remember when they increased the national debt, doubled it. we are the only country in the world that has a ceiling. it is a scam. i remember alan greenspan saying it might not be a good idea to pay off the national debt. that was around 2000. obama, where he should do, if you could have a $1 trillion corn, make 16 of them, pay off the national debt, and go on about your business. host: now to jesse, republican caller in texas. caller: i just wanted to touch on a few things. i am kind of wondering about the debt ceiling. where they came up with this situation. it just does not make any sense, why they want to fool with other people's money whenever folks in the white house don't have to worry about their m
's press conference was to -- for raising or not raising the debt ceiling. then this morning former house speaker newt gingrich weighed in saying the gop congress is coming out a loser. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we are in a position where we can't in fact in the end enforce our will. we have no evident that barack obama is going to compromise. >> sir, you voted for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've said -- >> you said you wouldn
as my first term comes to an end. >> brown: the questions were dominated by the looming debt ceiling fight. the president sternly warned republicans not to balk at raising the nation's borrowing limit. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they better choose quickly because time is running short. >> brown: congress has until march to raise the debt ceiling and prevent a government default. most republicans have insisted that with the government facing another trillion dollar deficit this year, any increase in borrowing authority must be tied to cuts in spending. the president flatly disagreed. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the b
republicans. is that what he's trying to do on the debt ceiling debate as well. >> you can the white house adopt a divide and conquer strategy for quite a bit of time. there are 85 house republicans who voted yes on the bill and created the margin it needed to pass. here's the interesting thing of those 85 republicans who voted yes. 70 of them came from blue states. states that voted for barack obama over mitt romney last november. in other words the white house is defending on some of these blue-state republicans. that means if the white house can drive a wedge between the blue state republicans and the red state presence he might be able to get dicey piece of legislation through the house. >> john: it seems to be a strategy. where does the debt ceiling fit into this? it just ensures that we pay the bills that we already spent. why are they talking about the two issues as if they're the same? >> why do they do a lot of things. but the question as that vote approaches in february or march whenever it's going to be, there are two questions actually. number one will boehner let a vote happen
conservatives for their debt ceiling hostage tactics. today it was the editors of the national review who said it was a bad idea. americans for prosperity, which is backed by, yes, the koch brothers, also said it was a bad idea. even newt gingrich, the rotund king of so many boad ideas, has said enough. >> in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to defall. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. >> joining us now from washington is david corn, d.c. bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine and jared bernstein is a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities. good afternoon to both of you. jared, if president obama were the one holding the debt ceiling hostage, right as the housing, auto, and retail sectors seem to be rebounding, wouldn't the house republicans be calling the president's tactics those of a socialist who wanted to bring down the american economy? >> i think they would, and i appreciate your bringing the economy into it. the president did that yesterday. the more we talk about the debt ceiling after obsessing over the fi
and the national debt. the president wants to raise the debt ceiling for the 5th time in his administration but he doesn't want to commit to many spending limitations in the future. the house could possibly not give the president the power to raise the debt ceiling in february. >> republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act ir responsibly and put america through another economic crisis. >> so you can see what the president is doing. he wants americans to believe the gop is the problem not massive spending. likewise on the gun control issue. the president wants it to come to a head to highlight republican opposition to limiting guns and ammunition. joining us now from washington fox news political analyst brit hume. seems to me presidethe presiden playing politics rather than problem solving. >> i think you have a point he would like to get republicans into it. i would put it a different way in the sense that i think he would be perfectly happy to get the gun control measure that he favors whatever they turn out to be when the reco
is not an answer. house speaker john boehner says the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. utah republican congressman mike lee says not facing the spending problem could be the worse outcome. >> we are going to face another credit rating downgrade i fear if we raise it reflectively without changing the way washington spends money and more importantly the way washington borrows money. >> republicans feels they have the leverage to raise r have spending cuts. >> we are living longer but we are work longer. we looked at the number of older americans who were still pulling in paychecks. the group found over the last two decades the number of workers who were 75 years old at least has gone up by nearly 77 percent. not all of them are doing it just because of money. people are finding a lot of reasons to work in their 70s and 80s. >> we are healthier than we used to be. a lot of people are working for that reason they are also working because they are worried about medical costs going forward. t
called on congress to raise the debt ceiling so the country can pay its bills. >> we have to do something sensible and we shouldn't be doing this on a one to three- month time frame. why would we do that? this is the united states ofajor america, major.in we can't manage our affairs in our such a way that we pay our bills and provide certainty in terms of how we pay our bills. i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. >> pelley: speaker john boehner said the republican-controlled house will pass what he called "responsible legislation." but he said the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without cutting government spending. we have learned tonight that former cycling champion lance armstrong is in discussions to return a part of the millions of dollars that his team received from the u.s. postal service. and he has indicated a willingness to testify against others involved in illegal doping. armstrong's u.s. postal sponsorship prohibited doping. last year armstrong was stripped of his titles after an investigation found systemic drug use on th
join standard and poor's, which took that action in 2011 during the last debt ceiling debate. the u.s. house moved to pass a hurricane sandy relief bill this evening. $17 billion would go for immediate recovery in the affected northeastern states. another $33 billion is for long- term spending. some republicans argued that much of the money isn't for emergency relief at all. california's tom mcclintock called for stripping that funding out. >> according to the congressional budget office, more than 90% of this money won't even be spent this year. that's not emergency relief. $16 billion is to quintuple the size of the community development block grant program. that's the slush fund that pays for such dubious projects as doggie day care centers and doesn't even have to be spent in the hurricane area. >> sreenivasan: other republican >> sreenivasan: other republicans joined with most democrats to reject offsetting spending cuts. instead, lawmakers from the northeast urged the house to pass the storm aid now. new york democrat hakeen jeffries said it's already taken too long. . >> it's
to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year, and i'm happy to accept it. but if they want to keep this responsibility, then they need to go ahead and get it done. and there are no magic tricks here. there are no loopholes. there are no easy outs. this is a matter of congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me, you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level, you need to send out social security checks, you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid. and so, what congress can't do is tell me to spend x, and then say, but we're not going to give you the authority to go ahead and pay the bills. and i just want to repeat -- because i think sometimes the ame
it must raise the debt ceiling and that the fed is going to keep buying bonds for now. on this one-month anniversary of the heinous, awful newtown shootings, the sheriff comes out in favor of banning assault weapons. "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up tonight, president obama slams the republicans. he says no gimmick, no magic coins. just the plain old standoff on the debt ceiling. who is gonna blink first in this? john harwood joins us from washington with the details. good evening. >> good evening. the president used the last news conference of first term to draw an ever-brighter line with congressional republicans on the debt ceiling. they say they want dollar for dollar spending cuts to be matched with an increase in the debt ceiling. the president said i'll negotiate with you, but not over the debt ceiling. he simply is not going to allieu republicans to take the full faith and credit of the united states and the health of the u.s. economy as hostages. >> they will not collect our ransom in exchange for crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of
: republicans trying to figure out their opening position on the debt ceiling. democrats and the white house have already come out with theirs. president obama saying that he is not negotiating it. he says he is willing to talk about deficit reduction, perhaps modest reduction to healthcare spending. as long as it comes with curbing loopholes and tax reductions for wealthier individuals. congress should just do it. back to you. connell: let's bring in dylan glenn. former advisor to george w bush. rich said that republicans have reasons for not having this meeting today. the president is standing back and think i am not negotiating on this and the republicans are all over the map. >> i do not think that this is a big deal. i do not see that as a big issue. what is coming out of this weekend retreat is far more important. connell: i would like to be a fly on the wall for that. >> also what is important is to remember how we got here. he has run trillion dollar deficits for the past four years of his administration. you have to pass a budget in the united states senate. he will be doing his sor
house. the main attraction, our old friend the debt ceiling. they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to wor
off the table? the white house is looking at several measures in the event the debt ceiling might be weakening, find out why a rebound in commodity prices could help to keep the aussie -- dollar strong. >>> and coming up on the program, what will this year bring? we'll be in asia to look at how china's rebound in demand will be key. >>> welcome back to the program. some potentially big deal news, dell has reportedly held recent talks with private equity firms about taking itself private. "the wall street journal" reports ppg and silver lake partners have talked with the company in the past two to three months and could team up on a bid. jpmorgan is reportedly involved in the process. any possible deal would likely emerge within six weeks. dell declined comment on monday after the news was first reported. the pcmaker, of course, has struggled in recent years amid falling prices and demand, shares jumping almost 13% on that news. the stock had been down more than 30% over the past year. >>> heavy losses for apple's asi asi asian suppliers today. south korea's samsung electronics, lg
to quit spending money and try to cut into this deficit. >> reporter: house republicans see the debt ceiling deadline next month as one of the best ways early in the president's second term to force him to accept a new round of spending cuts and may have it on an incremental basis, one, two o three months and using that process to achieve more deficit reduction. >> former speaker of the house and republican presidential candidate newt gingrich. good morning mr. speaker. >> it's good to be with you. >> good to be with you. you say fighting over the debt ceiling is a bad idea for congressional republicans. why? >> because in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side and the fact is republicans have two much bet ear renas to fight over spending they have a continuing resolution which funds government which comes up at the end of march and they have the sequester,
will air on thursday. >> president obama making his case for raising the debt ceiling. this morning the president says he will negotiate on spending cuts but not on the debt ceiling. mark matthews is here now with more on what sat stake. >> republicans in the house say they won't raise the debt gmu and president agree to corresponding cuts. the president outlined the stake autos the president began by defining the issue. >> debt keeling is not a question of authorizing more spending. it allows the country to pay for spending that congress is committed to. >> he said americans understand the concept. >> you don't go out to dinner and... then, you know eat all you want. and then... leave without paying a check. >> if you do that, it's against the law, said the president. he added if congress fails to raise the debt ceiling american people will pay the price. >> social security checks and veteran benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small business owner autos again and again, the president repeated the fact raising the debt ceilin
mitch mcconnell continued to link the debt ceiling increase to spending. in a statement he said the president and his allies need to get serious about spending and the debt limit debate is the perfect time for it. house speaker john boehner also ignored his obligation to pay the nation's bills and also complained about spending. the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. they speak so confident, don't they? it's almost as if they forgot all about the spending cuts the president already gave them over a year ago. well, let's try to help them figure it out a little bit with a little visual and audio assistance. >> over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago, i signed into law more than $600 billion into new revenue, by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that will save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two year
. >>> the finger pointing has long since started in washington as the debt ceiling key bait speaks up. president obama issued this warning to house republicans during a news conference yesterday. take a listen. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the people is not eleven rafrmged to with used. it is not a bargaining chip. and they'd better choose quickly because time is running short. >> representative lynn jenkins is a republican from kansas. she is also the house republican vice chair. i guess basically i should ask you to respond to the president. >> well, i wish the president would stop campaigns and come over to the hill and have a conversation with us. republicans are willing to work with this situation which is our out of control wasest watt errand spending. >> you'd like to have him -- he sayed yesterday he has a nice pick imevery year. he said this in the wall street toufrpd. it's wrong to think of it as ooh long stamp. those days are onner. that debt limbet is one of the last steps toing tagt tachlkts there ar
for a fight and the consequences to fail to increase the debt ceiling are failing as well as allowing the spending problem to go unresolved. the concern is that if congress fails to act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could dip and that could likely have and i affect on california's budget numbers. >> the risk to our forecast numbers could come next month and that's what the federal government chooses to do or not to do regarding the debt ceiling. >> the budget released by governor jerry brown showed a budget surplus for the first time in many years. >>> right now it is 4:44 let's check in with sal on an early morning report on traffic. >>> good morning everybody, it is chilly, let's take a look at traffic on 880 westbound as you head to the mcarthur maze. if you are driving there, it is cold but visibility is good if you could think of the silverling. for most of the area, the bay bridge toll plaza looks good. if you are driving in downtown san jose it looks nice. 4:45 let's go to steve. >>> another cold one out there, i tell you this is a long stretch, 1990, 1997 and we ha
spending. they want cuts for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised. >> the president said he will negotiate spending cuts. >> the full faith and credit of the united states of america snot a bargaining chip. >> but the challenge is a lot of people we've talked to had no real grasp of what it meant to raise the debt keeling. >> what does that do? >> puts us nor debt. >> raising the debt keeling alouz him to borrow more money. >> half of the people had no idea what it was. >> i believe that they make things purposely conpusing. >> the president wants to turn up the heat he's got to make the issue clear z as abc 7 news explains, republicans need to decide if they want to stand their ground on thish yu at the risk of a down turn. >> i think a lot of us has to deal with well, yes but this vit way to do it? that i think is boehner's responsibility tochl plain that to his members. my understanding is that is what is what he's planning to do. >> today, the tea party express issued a statement saying it's irresponsibility for the president to democratta going this issue. big opportuni
for raising the debt ceiling. it's on them. if they want to take the heat for veterans benefits and social security benefits not getting to people, what game of chicken are we playing here? >> really high stakes game of chicken is what we're playing here. i had the occasion of going back and reading actually the president's first news conference after he became president, and he is talking then about his overtures to republicans and how he hopes he can create habits of good behavior. well, it's been four long years, and that was about the feistiest press conference spurred by nothing other than he just really wanted to send this signal once again. his message was i'm not backing down, and he is getting the message back from republicans that they aren't either. i think we're going to be asking ourselves which side is going to blink for the next several weeks. i don't know that -- i don't feel confident that i know the answer to that question. >> ruth marcus, thank you very much. kristen welker thank you, from the white house. >>> new york state now is the first state to push ahead with what
contact.com/try. >>> to washington now where yet another battle is brewing, this time it's over the debt ceiling and from the white house to capitol hill democrats and republicans are sparring over the best way to ensure the nation pays its bills and now they're taking the fight to you as both sides try to sell their point of view. president obama warning about what could happen if that debt limit is not raised. >> if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks, and veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or contracts with small business owners. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america a safe bet. >> the republican house speaker john boehner responding immediately to the president's remarks issuing a statement that read "the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." joining us is amy kremer, c
yesterday the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. so i think a lot of people are tormented over this. they agree with both sides. yes, we can't spend, no, we can't default, but who does big business see this? >> big business is pretty clear. i've spoken to a lot of ceos. they don't want to have the debt ceiling be the problem. they think that would be very bad for the economy and for everyone in the economy. they worry about interest rates going up and they worry about the impact on our deficit. because when interest rates go up, that means the deficit will go up. so we make the problem worse by taking this route if we go down this pathway. >> i want to throw three terms at you that we've had to stomach out in america. debate over the fiscal cliff, the debate over the debt ceiling and the budget show dunn. all three of these very serious. but which is the most serious. >> the debt ceiling could do damage to our countries for decades to come if we hit it and don'
raising the debt ceiling without cutting spending at the same time. boehner calls the debt an anchor on our economy. here's the leading senate republican, making his point. >> it's sort of like you have a kid who exceeds the credit card limit. you tear up the credit card, but you look at the spending. the republicans are willing to pay for past bills. these are about future bills. the president is missing the point that we are on an unsustainable path. >> reporter: portman acknowledges the need to raise the debt ceiling, but he supports the context of getting a handle on the spenning. >> shepard: this is disaster relief for victims of super storm sand gee right. we have had plenty of lawmakers saying we need to get a handle on government spending, but not when people are waiting for major disaster relief money. a key new jersey democrat is saying people from new york, new jersey and connecticut pay their fair share. three state, 16% of the taxes. you ask the question: who suffered because of super storm sandy? certainly, our neighbors in new york and new jersey and connecticut suffe
in both the house and senate is they will only increase the debt ceiling by the amount of spending cuts that they are able to push through. in order to replace the automatic spending cuts and a sequester, 1.2 trillion, say it takes another trillion to get us through one more year, they would have to identify 2.5 trillion dollars in cuts just to get the debt ceiling extended to next year. 2.5 trillion. congress has not been able to identify 1.2 trillion and cuts their happy with. because the same republicans say they do not want to cut the fence. and they have claimed they do not want to gut medicare or harmed the vulnerable, but the truth of the matter is you cannot meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare or having an impact on medicaid or affecting the defense spending. the ma justth is not add up. here is what would work. -- the math test is not at about it adds up to. 0.5 trillion dollars. the consensus is we need 4 trillion dollars to stabilize the debt, deficit. that means we need 1.5 trillion dollars more. the package i authorized to the speaker before the new
and the consequences of increasing the debt ceiling are real but so too is the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. >>> they are closely watching this debt ceiling battle in washington and if congress does not act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could fall and that would have a negative affect on california's budget numbers. they revealed a budget surplus in many years and that's thanks to a new tax revenue from proposition 30 as well as spending cuts. >>> the social media is buzzing about a possible announcement by facebook. janine de la vega joins us now from menlo park with more on a mystery event that is going to take place in just a few hours, good morning. >> reporter: good morning pam, we did see several news vehicles and as the morning goes on the area is expected to fill up and that's because at 10:00 a.m. facebook is anticipating a news conference to unveil something. we don't know what that something is just yet but they say come see what we are building. most people agree they are not talking about an actual building even though they are expanding the
separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are designed to be used only by one person, but an investigation discovered that many of them were used on multiple people. >>> are you in hawaii or going there anytime soon? surfers, beware. check out this video. it's a real-life jauss. two sharks were swimming dangerously close to the show. can you believe it? look at that. you could wade in and be bitten, eaten. last year there were a total of 11 shark attacks in hawaii. >> that's what i call dangerously close. >> oh, my goodness. >> so some people in the southeast waking up to the dual danger of flooding and ice. alexandra steele in the weather center. good morning. >> good morning, guys. each snow potentially for you around new york c
is the debt ceiling. treasury secretary timothy geithner released a letter this week saying the government could run out its borrowing authority in as little as four weeks. now, republicans are trying to use this chance to force the democrats into serious long-term spending cuts but obama insists this is about paying the bills congress has already racked up. more bill up next. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv. >> announcer: broad broadcasting across the nation and on tv on current tv. >> bill: breaking news, clarence thomas has spoken. for the first time in seven years. at the supreme court. clarence thomas uttered maybe three words. maybe four. nobody is sure what he said. but he did show signs of life. oh, my god. what do you say? good morning everybody. with that bit of astounding news, we start off the "full court press" this tuesday morning, january 15. great to see you today. welcome, welcome welcome to the program. good to have you with us. look forward to hearing from yo
in both the house and senate is that they will only increase the debt ceiling by the amount of spending cuts that they are able to push lou. congress has not been able to identify $1.2 ril onin cuts they are happy with. >> p obama's warning on the debt ceiling will republicans be able to use the debt ceiling debate as leverage to get big spending cuts? or will it be on the government funding? jinx me is congressman greg walden. member of the leadership and joins me now. congressman, good morning. >> good morning, chuck. good to be with you. >> nice to see you. let me ask you about this issue of whether the debt limit should be used as leverage or whether you are trying to convince your members to say, you know what, the better place to have a debate with the president about spending cuts is on funding with the government. >> first of all, chuck, you just wish the president weren't so adversarial in his tone and the way he deals with the congress. you know, in the past -- >> let me stop -- wait a minute. let me stop threw. >> a lot of people will say adversaryial relationships are a woul
think you'd agree, and he has warned the house republicans not to take up this debt ceiling fight. listen. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-taxing liberal is a denial of everything that we've learned about him in his career. it's much better for the house republicans to say, this is what we're prepared to do. there are dozens of places you can dramatically change spending without having to get involved in a general crisis over the u.s. debt. >> does he have a point? do you think this is a message from the former speaker that's worth heeding? >> well, we definitely want to work with president obama, and we're at the beginning of the 113th congress. i would also say that this is our moment, though. the american people know that our economy is struggling right now, partly because of the debt that is impacting american families, hard-working taxpayers all across this country. when president obama was in the senate, when he was a u.s. senator, he voted against raising the debt ceiling. and he said it was a lack of leadership that had brought us to this point. and s
, these are the spending cuts we would outline in order to offset the increase in the debt ceiling? we believe that there needs to be cuts and these are what they would be? are you going to do that? >> martha, we'll get together this weekend and we'll crunch all that out. i don't want to presume there is consensus there i might adhere to. i want to do that with my colleagues but we need to lay down the broad bright line, for me, it is this. when does this budget balance? we must have cuts to go along with any debt increase. they must be substantial. there must be a line. martha: you need to sell that idea to the american people with specifics and with a plan and say we're the house gop. here's what we would do. here are the programs we would cut in order to reach parity over the next five years. we may never get this but we want the american people to understand what we stand for. is that something we can expect? >> well, martha, i take your point we need to sell it with specifics but you also understand as soon as a specific is put out there, it is attacked by the spending piranhas on the oth
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